Love Triangle (optional Square) Developments
- Obviously the biggest thing we learned was that Bernard likes Phil Collins. Nice payoff to Sawyer and Kate discussing Mix-Tapes. Also a nice reminder that Bernard and Rose ARE still on the island. This is probably because they will be resurfacing in an upcoming episode.
- So we learned a little more about Kate's attraction to both Sawyer and Jack. It would seem that every time Jack chooses the OTHERS over Kate, she aggressively runs into Sawyer's arms. Some might even say she is "USING Sawyer" for what she can't have with Jack.
- Loved the Kitchen scene and the Ping-Pong scene where Kate and Sawyer were respectively acting like they were in high school trying to cut the tension with Jack. Only to see their frustration when Jack doesn't even care! (but who are we kidding? He cares!) The big question is..what's going on with Jack and Juliet? Is Jack really attracted to her or is he under the ol' "Keep your friends close, keep your enemies closer" mantra? We have to hope this is what's going on. And I have faith that it is!
- Favorite Sawyer line "You guys playing who's your favorite OTHER?"
Speaking of the Ping-Pong between Sawyer and Jack...that was a good time. Always like seeing these two competing in some way. But things are definitely a little too lovey dovey between these two right now. That can't last, regardless of Sawyer professing his friendship to Jack at the end of season 2! Something tells me this Kate tension is eventually going to create some friction between Jack and Sawyer again!
In Desmond's past we follow his journey to becoming a monk and learn exactly why he is trying to become one! Some interesting tidbits below!
- Lots of discussion about the Moriah Vineyards wine. Desmond learns a lesson about sacrificing and being tested. The story is of God asking Abraham to sacrifice Isaac in order to prove he will go to the greatest lengths to serve God. Moriah was the mountain where this occurred. It parallels Desmond willingness to Sacrifice Charlie to find Penny. But in the end, he couldn't. And my Old Testament memory is a little hazy, but I don't think Abraham really DID sacrifice Isaac. It was merely just a test. Kinda like Ross being willing to drink the fat for Rachel! (Yeah...I don't usually pull in Friends references, but that was a good one, wasn't it?) Also, if you want to get technical, the label of the wine says Eddington, Scotland. Apparently this town doesn't exist. I don't think that really matters! But the year says 1995, this was 9 years before the crash and 6 years before Desmond went on his sailing expedition and ended up on the island.
- We also learn that 1995 would only produce 108 cases of Moriah Wine. (there's that lovely number again!)
- Probably worth noting that we know now why Desmond always calls people BROTHER. He was almost an official member of the Brotherhood of Monks!
- It would seem that the theme of Desmond's life is running away whenever he sees a new opportunity. It is driven into his head that he is destined for great things. We see the pattern repeated when he returns to his ex-fiance Ruth and explains why he left a week before the wedding. The strange thing that happened here was that he said he looked up and asked (God?) if he was doing the right thing. Then a piece of his timeline is missing and the next thing he recalls he is lying on his back in the middle of the street with a monk reaching his hand out to Desmond. The "lying on his back" and "time missing" started making me piece things together. Remember when Desmond turned that Fail-Safe key....the next thing HE remembers is lying on his back in his Apartment with Penny reaching her hand out to him. Are we meant to thing that this was another instance where there was some kind of flux in time? Maybe this is another event where Desmond will end up going back to redo something? But according to him, he's ALREADY experienced it? We get more into the time travel stuff in the next section...It's driving my head bonkers! But I thought this was worth noting. But I guess we're meant to believe that there was a series of events that Desmond ran away trying to discover what great thing he is destined for. And we are meant to believe that pushing that button is the great thing he is running towards. Left Ruth for the Monastery, left the Monastery for Penny, left Penny for the Military, left the Military for Prison, ran away on a sailing trip to prove his worth to Penny's father....ended up on island to push the button. Now he is in the SAVING lives business. Crazy stuff! It would seem that Desmond's life is safe for season 4 because there is much more left to explore with this guy!
- Thought it was interesting when Ruth said to Desmond it was a good thing a "SHEPHERD" didn't reach his hand out to help him up. Anyone else thing of Jack Shephard? And remember when Desmond helped Jack up at the stadium? Then said "You have to lift her up, Jack" referring to the infamous ankle? Not sure if it was tied together..but it would seem so, wouldn't it?
- And of course the little easter egg in the final discussion between head monk and Desmond shows a picture on the monk's desk. The picture shows this monk with the crazy lady that knows the future from the Jewelry store! The picture is very photoshopped, but I'm guessing this is because they only casted this lady for the one episode and didn't bring her back in for a picture. So what does this all mean? Is it a large conspiracy to instill in Desmond a sense of purpose? Are they all in on this bending of time? Or their mission to get him to the island? Or is it just another case of lives crossing in the past? I would say there is some significance to the Monk and Clock Lady's relationship. And now it would seem that this lady IS a real person and wasn't just in Desmond's head.
- As we stated before, we also see Desmond meet Penny after getting kicked out of the brotherhood. They hit it off immediately and the love story for the ages begins!
Well everyone has heard the expression "Catch-22." Everyone might not know that it was inspired by Joseph Heller's novel Catch-22. I could get into crazy details about what the book is all about, but honestly, I forget! (plus, I only saw the movie version!) Here's the Wikipedia Synopsis. Basically, I recall that the story takes place during WWII about a pilot who crashed on an island. But the story is revealed to us out of order and from different character perspectives! Sounds a little like the show LOST itself doesn't it? I believe this episode was simply meant to be an homage to the novel. Plus, the expression "Catch-22" is often used to describe a "No-Win Situation" which is what we find Desmond in the middle of when he has to choose between saving Charlie and finding Penny. Let's dive in!
- Loved Desmond's method of getting the First Aid kit from Jack. Why wouldn't the doctor take a look at Desmond's ankle? Because Desmond took care of JACK's ankle when they were running the stadium steps in their Pre-Crash lives. Thought that was a crafty little reference.
- Some funny moments. Everything revolving Jin and his love for Camping. "Everybody Loves Marshmallows," Jin telling a horror story in a woman's voice, the Superman vs Flash Discussion between Hurley and Charlie, all good stuff!
- As for Desmond's flash forward, we got to see one of these actually occurring. He pretty much saw the whole scene of Charlie dying and then just brief glimpses of what led up to it (like pieces of a puzzle as Dezzie describes). This must be how ALL of the flashes work for him. He was convinced that Penny had come to rescue him. We were reminded of the season 2 finale when Penny says to Desmond "With enough money and determination you can find anyone." Still no real information on HOW these flash forwards are occurring. We are still meant to believe that he has lived through this all before. Or has he? How many times would he have had to loop through his life to have seen various versions of Charlie dying? Everytime he saves Charlie, he sees a new future vision of Charlie dying. It's almost like someone has already TiVo'd the entire Series of LOST and is showing Desmond some scenes that never made the final cut! I mean...WHAT IS GOING ON!??!! Wow...this wasn't driving me crazy last night because I just accepted that Desmond is getting these visions. Now, that I'm thinking about it again....my mind is racing! How on earth are they going to explain these visions!? I guess they could tie it into all of the OTHER visions people are having on the island. Eko, Locke and Charlie all received instructions from very clear visions about things they couldn't possibly know about. Is Desmond another victim of this? I would buy that, except for the fact that the producers have told us that he DID actually re-live some of his life again with knowledge of the future. It all has to revolve around that safe-key! And, well, I've heard rumors that before this season's end....we're going take a dive FACE-FIRST into the DHARMA Initiative and learning some serious details! Perhaps they will explain to us all how it is scientifically possible to travel through time as well as see visions of the future! (sorry for the rambling! I can't help myself!)
- Bottom Line - Desmond was so adamant about finding Penny, he was willing to let Charlie die in the process. He felt that if he changed ANY details from the vision that he wouldn't be able to get to the PRIZE (which in this case was a vision of a pilot hanging from a tree with their parachute). When it came time to make that decision though, Desmond could not resist saving Charlie.
- So how about that Helicopter? Did it really find the island? Is that really what crashed? If we go with that theory...then what made it crash? Is there still some electromagnetic force around the island that brought the plane down? Does that give Desmond some reprieve on causing Flight 815 to crash? (meaning..maybe he didnt?) Very interesting stuff, and maybe we'll get some details in the upcoming episodes!
- On the way to finding the Pilot, they discover a backpack full of goodies including a Hoola Girl and a Satellite Phone. Sayid's next project anyone?
- Also among this was a copy of the novel "Catch-22" but it was in Portuguese. Not sure if anyone remembers the season 2 finale with those crazy 2 people in the arctic tracking electromagnetic activity. They were speaking Portuguese. Are we meant to make a connection? I'm going to go ahead and say Yes! Inside this novel was that infamous picture of Desmond and Penny. Now, we only saw ONE picture taken in that pseudo Flashback of Desmond's earlier this season. How did Penny or whoever get a copy of this photo too? Is this something we're meant to harp on. I'm going to go ahead and say "I don't know!"
- So After all of the Charlie rescuing and clue following is finished, we get all excited at the possibility that the Pilot IS Penny (come on, it could never be THAT easy, could it?) We rip away the helmet...and there she is. Who is it? Woaaaa......It's Sanjaya Malakar fresh off of an elimination from American Idol! Well it makes sense...he WAS in L.A., right?! Okay okay...in all seriousness, who is this lady? Well, for now, we have to assume she has connections to Penny and is, in fact, Portuguese. We have to assume she had the picture to ID Desmond and that's why she knew his name. Of course, there is always the skeptics in us that also cannot rule out that it's those crazy OTHERS or some other FACTION on the island messing with poor ol' Dezzy and giving everyone false hope of rescue. More to come on this as we close up season 3!
Pretty great episode wasn't it? Well, we all have our favorite characters. Can't help myself...Loving the Desmond! Maybe some people are a big fan of Jin and Sun. Well, we'll be revisiting them next week! And, as predicted early in season 3, Juliet being a fertility doctor will directly affect Sun and her pregnancy. Now, the big question on the table... Did Sun conceive PRE-CRASH with Baldy#2? or did she conceive POST Crash with Newly Fertile Jin? The answer is coming folks!
As stated before, it's that time of year when we have to be pondering who will be leaving us this year. We have to think about whose stories are coming near completion. Who is expendable? I could name countless others that could be killed off by the end of the season. Charlie's name is floating out there with the whole Desmond premonitions thing. Possibly Sun with the pregnancy. The big question is are Jack, Locke, Sawyer, and Kate invincible at this point in the story? One would really think so. I would also throw Hurley and Claire into the safe zone. And well....they better not be getting rid of Jin! The dude has been funnier than Hurley this season! And like I said before, Desmond better be sticking around too. He seems very important to the entire mythology of the show and his love saga with Penny seems to be just getting started. But what do I know? So who does that leave? Juliet? (she's getting a lot of praise for her role on the show....are they really going to kick her off?) Ben? (possible....if we learn who Jacob is...Ben's role on the show may become meaningless) Tom? (more probable...ever since he was revealed as a non-bearded goon of the others....his role seems less important) Parachute Lady? (oh yeah...she doesn't seem to be a mainstay!) Then there is the question of Michael and Walt. We are told their story will resume in season 4. But Harold Perrineau has just been cast in another TV show. What is going on??? Anyway....just thought I'd do some pondering. Feel free to post your own thoughts on who is the next to go!
Okay...upcoming Flashbacks for the remainder of the season. Highlight over the text below if you want to read!
- April 25 - 3x18 - Jin/Sun
- May 2 - 3 x19 - Non-Traditional Flashback..no particular characters. And a huge season 1 mystery will be revealed. Remember, this is when we're revisiting the Locke/Locke's dad story
- May 9 - 3x20 - Charlie
- May 16 - 3x21 - Ben
- May 23 - 3x22 &23 - Jack
Pretty exciting stuff! That's all I have for this week. Hope everyone enjoyed the ramblings. Please post comments and I'll see you next week!
I loved this episode from the first scene! I wasn't expecting the Charlie death thing to happen so when it did I had to pause it and get my shock over with only to see that it was a ruddy foresight thing and he was fine!! :p Plus I was too busy loving the Flash(ahhahh! had to be done!) vs Superman debate to be expecting anything bad to happen to any of them...
I am a big fan of Desmond and watching as he went through the steps of ultimately stopping Charlie from dying was good stuff, in my opinion - convincing Hurley and Jin was a hoot, particularly Jin with the marshmellow thing! I thought it was funny when Hurley tried to justify being with Desmond to Jack and he said "because we're friends..."- Desmond like myself thought that would make Jack suspicious! :p
I found myself calling Kate a bitch for using Sawyer for her 'needs' while Jack had a pleasent evening with Juilet(which is the correct spelling? Juliette?)
Sawyer's line of the day: "If we don't play every 108 minutes the island is gunna explode!"
That's my 2pence worth for this week, pointless but I DON'T CARE! :p
How safe is Locke? Seems like he could get resolution with his father shortly and he is now a traitor and an OTHER.
I'm not really sure on Juliet. I think you can spell it either way. IMDB has it listed as "Juliet Burke" But I have seen other Juliet's spelled "Juliette" lol
Very true Ryan. I just can't see this show going on without Locke, but I guess it's entirely possible!
Here you go Mike- Abraham was stopped at the last minute Genesis 22:2-13:
2 Then God said: "Take your son Isaac, your only one, whom you love, and go to the land of Moriah. There you shall offer him up as a holocaust on a height that I will point out to you."
Early the next morning Abraham saddled his donkey, took with him his son Isaac, and two of his servants as well, and with the wood that he had cut for the holocaust, set out for the place of which God had told him.
On the third day Abraham got sight of the place from afar.
Then he said to his servants: "Both of you stay here with the donkey, while the boy and I go on over yonder. We will worship and then come back to you."
Thereupon Abraham took the wood for the holocaust and laid it on his son Isaac's shoulders, while he himself carried the fire and the knife.
As the two walked on together, Isaac spoke to his father Abraham. "Father!" he said. "Yes, son," he replied. Isaac continued, "Here are the fire and the wood, but where is the sheep for the holocaust?"
"Son," Abraham answered, "God himself will provide the sheep for the holocaust." Then the two continued going forward.
When they came to the place of which God had told him, Abraham built an altar there and arranged the wood on it. Next he tied up his son Isaac, and put him on top of the wood on the altar.
Then he reached out and took the knife to slaughter his son.
But the LORD'S messenger called to him from heaven, "Abraham, Abraham!" "Yes, Lord," he answered.
"Do not lay your hand on the boy," said the messenger. "Do not do the least thing to him. I know now how devoted you are to God, since you did not withhold from me your own beloved son."
As Abraham looked about, he spied a ram caught by its horns in the thicket. So he went and took the ram and offered it up as a holocaust in place of his son.
I think they could get rid of Syed this season.
What do you think Rousseau is up to these days, now that she has seen Alex?
Tony, fire didn't come out of your ears looking at the Bible?
Tony - cool it with the Bible.
Mike good write-up for a not so great eppy. I liked some of it but it seemed a bit pointless.
Dave - I did the same re; Kate using Sawyer - cow! And OMG who is going to die?
I have a feeling it'll be Charlie but I'm praying it isn't....
I can't see John, Sawyer, Jack or Kate going...but who knows with this show.
Can't believe there isn't long left :(
When will Season 4 start?
Leigh, Tony was just clarifying what I asked about in the blog. You gotta settle down with your Bible hatin!
" And my Old Testament memory is a little hazy, but I don't think Abraham really DID sacrifice Isaac. It was merely just a test. Kinda like Ross being willing to drink the fat for Rachel!"
Turns out they answered my question right IN the episode. The Monk and Desmond mentioned in their conversation that God stopped Isaac at the last minute. And Desmond said to Charlie maybe he is failing his TESTS form God by changing the visions of the future. I think I looked a bit too much into this one! lol
Hey Kermit! :D
OK sorry Tony :-* And hi Tony, Mr Vitullo number 2 ! lol
And Joy - Nooooo!!! Sayid rocks!!
Omg--- LOVE the Friends reference. I knew I loved this blog!
This was another strong episode, about as strong as the last couple but not stronger, for sure. But since Exposé, Lost has had three solid eps in a row and I can begin to see why this season was one of Mike's favorites. Like him, I liked the first six episodes quite a bit and didn't mind the languid pace. Now I can see the pace accelerating and it's got me on pins and needles for the last six hours of the season.
Mike, I don't think Desmond has to live through his whole life again to see another vision/version of Charlie dying, because the Old Lady in the jewelry shop told Des how things are "meant to be" and nature will do a "course correction" to make it happen. So if Charlie survives, Desmond just has a "Groundhog Day" vision of the next course correction. The question is, will nature ever present a situation where Des can't step in or forewarn Charlie in time? I hope not!
Ah, Marsha Thomason played the parachute girl! I recognize Marsha from her work as an FBI agent on White Collar, where she has become a fan favorite! Her appearance reminded me that I forgot to mention Patrick J. Adams from Suits appeared a few eps ago as the son of the woman that Locke's dad was going to swindle out of millions. I know I must've missed other guest appearances on Lost, but seeing two characters who now star in USA Network shows (that I actually watch) on Lost was a kick.
As for the father of Sun's child, I'm beginning to wonder. I always thought it was Baldy #2, but it's close to what, three months they've been on the island and Sun doesn't even have a little bump. Not that she would have to, since some women don't show for a long time. But I'm wondering just when did Jin and Sun roll in the hay after crashing on the island? They were fighting quite a bit early on and the shock of the crash...I don't know. I was sure that Sun cheated on Jin before the show confirmed it, but now I'm completely in the dark about whose baby it is, or whose baby it should be.
As for who's gonna die, oh man, I don't even want to think about that. No way Locke is dying, right? He's too essential to exploring the mythology of the island. Sayid does seem to make sense. Charlie could be a candidate. But I don't want to lose either of them, either. But I should brace myself for a major character death. It's been so long since we've had one, and you know they need a big shocker for the season finale.
Oh no...not Juliet! Of course, Shakespeare would tell us, "what did you expect, a happy ending?"
@Miles - It only gets better! But yeah...I did love Catch-22 as an episode too. More Desmond stuff!
The "living whole life again" thing - I vaguely remember throwing that theory out there. Yeah, I don't think that either anymore. lol And no comment on the Charlie visions! :)
Never would've known that anyone from LOST showed up on USA shows, as I don't watch any of them. lol So, that's interesting to hear. One thing that LOST did pretty well was employ a lot of previous Deadwood actors/actresses. (Cassidy, Rachel, and Pickett's girlfriend/wife to name a few of them. More to come.)
I think the first time Jin and Sun "rolled in the hay" on the island is when they were reunited in season 2. Before that Sun still hated Jin (until they said goodbye). Interesting theorizing! You may not have long to get your answer.
Yeah...it certainly has been long since a major character death happened. They even cheated in season 2/beginning of season 3 by killing off people they recruited AFTER the 1st season. (Well, and Shannon too) But, the longer the season 1 characters stick around, the more emotional stakes that are built around them. Obviously, I'm going to let you find out for yourself if anyone dies and who he/she/they may be!
I just watched this one, and I loved it. The past 3 episodes have been totally outstanding. I always love when there's a serious plot line and then a light one running along beside it. And I'm with you Mike - anything with Desmond is always good.
I always love any action with the Jack/Kate/Sawyer(/Juliet) Love Triangle (Rectangle). Ha! I do wish that Jack wouldn't be so cold to Kate. After everything they've been through in the last almost 4 months, you'd think they could take a walk down the beach and talk about everything (but that wouldn't give us the tension, so from a storytelling point of view I understand why they haven't really talked. I just wish they would.). I have to believe he's keeping his enemy close and that this is all a part of a larger strategy. That being said, I'm digging the Kate/Sawyer pairing. This is probably my favorite love triangle ever in television. So good.
Can't wait to see what happens next! I work from home, and it's been super hard to focus on my actual work when that Netflix 'Play Next' button is sitting right there. Argh!
Hello again Krista! Yeah, season 3 gets a bad rap, but it's one of my favorites. Sure, the beginning was rough (imagine only seeing those first 6 episodes then having to wait a few months to see the rest!).....but then it really picked up and they just did tons of great storytelling and answers to early questions. The best is yet to come too!
Ahh yes...i forgot about my Love Rectangle comments. LOL Interesting speculation on Jack! He certainly has been a supporting player in the 2nd half of the season...which makes you wonder what he's up to. They certainly made a good argument for Kate and Jack and Kate and Sawyer. It was a well played triangle...and the rectangle elements worked well too! I'm jealous that you're going to be experiencing some of this stuff for the first time. Enjoy it!!
If I hadn't watched LOST yet and I was working from home every day...I'd be done in a week! LOL I work from home once a week and the temptation is bad enough then to catch up on stuff! lol I have a feeling you'll be done season 3 before you know it!
You're about to see this blog take off in the comments sections too. One or 2 well placed links on EW.com and then it got high placement on google ...the site was off and running! lol
man this season has been crazy. What a second half of the season. Makes you wonder what would have happened if Dez let Charlie die? Would the pilot be Penny if that was the case?
Also been keeping a running list of unanswered questions since season 1 and we are up to 21 questions now. Not crossing them off but adding more worries me a bit. As a rewatcher, looking forward to see how much of it gets resolved. I guess I'll share my question list at the end of season 6 :)
Hi again Baran! I always loved the 2nd half of season 3. That season gets a bad reputation from the beginning, Nikki/Paolo and the jack tattoo ep but there's so much good stuff too.
I'll just put out a general warning to be careful going into the final season with a checklist. That may lead to disappointment. But there are a lot of answers along the way. That's all I'll say. Actually at the beginning of season 6 I posted a list of 23 questions I still had and speculated whether we'd get answers. I followed up on that list before the last few episodes aired. There are links to them somewhere on this site! Lol just enjoy the ride! I'll look forward to your list though! :)
"I'm afraid you're beyond penance, Desmond"
I don't know why but I found that exchange so adorable lol. Don't worry Desy you will always remain a brotha to us all.
Hi Edriss. I think this is the last comment you've left for now. So I'll be all caught up!
LOL on the brother comment. You know the writers were cracking up when they decided to have him be an ex-monk with all of his brothaaaa talk! :) Great character.
Watching Lost for the first time, and I am loving it! I have a question/comment about something I had noticed in the show, but realized you (Mike) hadn’t mentioned. In the episode “one of us” I noticed a quick cut in the scene where Charlie checks on Claire for the first time she begins to feel sick.
A similar flash/quick cut was seen in this episode when Desmond mentioned something about his flash to Hurley.
I am now starting episode 18 of season 3 “DOC”, The opening scene where Jack checks in on Sun also has a cut/stutter/discrepancy in it.
Am I looking to deep into this detail?
Thank you! I love the blog as it makes it feel as if I was watching the show as if it were airing currently. Great job!
Hi shooter! Glad you’re enjoying the show and the blog! It’s always nice to hear the blog has stayed relevant to new bingers of the show. You may or may not be looking too much into the cuts. And it may just be an editing choice. It also may be something I never picked up on and be very intentional, but that’s the beauty of LOST. We all looked way too much into a lot of things. But it created a great community around the show. Sure, it may have led to many disappointed viewers in the end (lots of theories, lots of questions never intended by the show to be questions, one ending that couldn’t satisfy every theory, every question), but that was unavoidable with the massive success the show had. I say theorize away. I don’t want to spoil that too much! Lol I think you’re only a couple episodes away from when people started discovering this blog and you’ll get to see a lot more crack pot theories on here. It was a lot of fun! I tried to monitor the comments on here to make sure future episodes were not spoiled, so it makes it a safe haven for new viewers to read unspoiled. (Unless you count me justifying the end of LOST in various old recap comments sections spoilery lol I call it setting expectations properly!)
I've been really enjoying reading your blog along with my first-time watch of LOST! Since halfway through season 2, I've read every blog post immediately after watching each episode, without fail! I've heard a lot of positive and negative thoughts about the ending, and I'm hoping I won't be disappointed when I get there. Looking forward to following your original thoughts right alongside you with each episode until the end! So far I've been averaging 8 episodes a day! Just wanted to thank you for keeping up such an awesome space that can still be enjoyed in the same way almost 15 years later!
Hi there! Always happy to hear people still find the blog relevant with those binges. Fortunately for you most people are good with the ending when they binge the show and don’t overthink things. Granted this blog and many others like it are guilty of giving people the opportunity to speculate and come up with their own ideal endings! But that was part of the fun of the show. I loved to speculate but always appreciated when they eventually put on screen. And the ending was no different. Enjoy the ride! Not long after this episode people started finding it and adding many more comments so you’ll see what everyone was thinking back then. Not just me. :) thanks for commenting!
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